Manly Beach · Development Application DA2025/1424 · Submissions record
Public submissions

What people told Council about DA2025/1424

The main reasons people gave in their submissions, for and against the application, with real letters you can read. We have left out the tally on purpose: this page is about what people said, not how many said it.

Based on every public submission on Council’s portal for DA2025/1424, as at the portal sync of 30 Oct 2026 07:02. No submitter is named. To read all the letters, open the application on Council’s tracker ↗. For the plans and reports, see the application documents.

Main reasons given

Each submission was coded for the reasons it gives, using one list of reasons for objecting and one for supporting. A submission can give several reasons, so the shares add to more than 100%. Each person is counted once, with all the reasons across their letters. The labels are short summaries of what writers said, not our view of whether a reason is right.

Under each of the top ten reasons you can open five example letters, chosen at random, and ask for another random five as often as you like.

Reasons for objecting

Share of people objecting who give each reason.

  1. Bulk, scale & height83%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 19 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 22 Dec 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
  2. View loss & visual impact58%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 16 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 20 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 14 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 11 Nov 2025 (3 pages) · 1st round · 3 pages · 1st round
  3. Private club benefit / need not shown53%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 21 Sep 2026 (4 pages) · 2nd round · 4 pages · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (3 pages) · 1st round · 3 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (26 pages) · 1st round · 26 pages · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 11 Nov 2025 (3 pages) · 1st round · 3 pages · 1st round
  4. Loss of public land / promenade / Crown land52%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 16 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 17 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (3 pages) · 1st round · 3 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 10 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  5. Pedestrian access, congestion, traffic & parking48%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 14 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 7 Oct 2026 (2 pages) · 2nd round · 2 pages · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 14 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 28 Oct 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  6. Function room, bar & commercial use43%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 15 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 15 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 30 Sep 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    4. Letter lodged 25 Feb 2026 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  7. Heritage & character37%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 15 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 13 Oct 2026 (7 pages) · 2nd round · 7 pages · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 17 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 27 Oct 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
  8. Cost, funding & ratepayers35%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 14 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 3 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 27 Oct 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
  9. Noise, overshadowing & residential amenity32%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 3 Dec 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (17 pages) · 1st round · 17 pages · 1st round
  10. Alternative site or approach suggested32%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 9 Oct 2026 (2 pages) · 2nd round · 2 pages · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 30 Sep 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 17 Nov 2025 (9 pages) · 1st round · 9 pages · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 17 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 10 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
Show all 29 reasons
  1. Process, consultation & documentation30%
  2. Design & aesthetics21%
  3. Planning controls & zoning16%
  4. Trees & Norfolk Pines14%
  5. Property values & compensation7%
  6. Alcohol & anti-social behaviour5%
  7. Environment: stormwater, marine & wildlife4%
  8. Construction disruption4%
  9. Coastal hazards & climate risk2%
  10. Public amenity & accessibility shortfalls2%
  11. Special Entertainment Precinct conflict2%
  12. Loss of beach monitoring & patrol sightlines2%
  13. Competition with local businesses1%
  14. Emergency access & disaster planning1%
  15. Geotechnical & cliff stability1%
  16. Wind, breeze & microclimate1%
  17. Cumulative development in Manlyunder 1%
  18. Building too small for the club's needsunder 1%
  19. Internal layout inefficiency & maintenanceunder 1%

Reasons for supporting

Share of people supporting who give each reason.

  1. Lifesaving & beach safety64%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 13 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 10 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 5 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  2. Existing building outdated / not fit for purpose57%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 10 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 6 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 29 Oct 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  3. Nippers, youth & community hub55%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 6 Oct 2026 (2 pages) · 2nd round · 2 pages · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 14 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 7 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  4. Club growth, training & storage capacity46%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 17 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 6 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
  5. Good design / modest impact35%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 14 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  6. Iconic beach, tourism & economy35%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 19 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 14 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 11 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  7. Public amenities & accessibility34%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    2. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 12 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 27 Oct 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  8. Rebuts objectors18%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 16 Oct 2026 (2 pages) · 2nd round · 2 pages · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 6 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 22 Jan 2026 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 4 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 28 Oct 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  9. Financial sustainability & funding11%
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    5 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 23 Sep 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (2 pages) · 1st round · 2 pages · 1st round
    3. Letter lodged 18 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    4. Letter lodged 11 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
    5. Letter lodged 29 Oct 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
  10. Consistent with other surf club approvals1%
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    4 letters chosen at random from all the letters coded as giving this reason. Each opens on Council’s portal (PDF). To read them all, use Council’s tracker.

    1. Letter lodged 16 Oct 2026 (2 pages) · 2nd round · 2 pages · 2nd round
    2. Letter lodged 16 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    3. Letter lodged 15 Oct 2026 (1 page) · 2nd round · 1 page · 2nd round
    4. Letter lodged 6 Nov 2025 (1 page) · 1st round · 1 page · 1st round
Show all 16 reasons
  1. Praises Council processunder 1%
  2. Site constraints rule out the existing footprintunder 1%
  3. Club heritage & historyunder 1%
  4. Coastal hazard & emergency resilienceunder 1%
  5. Consolidates other club storageunder 1%
  6. Public access to club hospitalityunder 1%

How this was done

Every public submission on the DA2025/1424 portal was read in full. Scanned letters were converted to text first. Each letter was coded for its side and the reasons it gives, using written rules first tested and hand-checked on a 50-letter sample.

The example letters under each reason are drawn at random from all the distinct letters on that side coded as giving the reason. They are not chosen for quality or for which side they help. The first five shown are a fixed draw (made with a fixed starting number, so the same data always gives the same five). Press “Show another random 5” and your own browser picks a fresh five from the whole list, as often as you like. The examples are only as good as the coding: a letter may give a reason only in passing.

ItemValueNote
Data as at30 Oct 2026 07:02The Council portal sync this page is based on. Council may publish late submissions; this page will be updated when it does.
Blind check40Random submissions re-coded by a second AI pass without seeing the first coding.
Blind check: side agreed40 of 40Object, support or no position.
Blind check: position agreed38 of 40Includes whether an objector supports a rebuild.
Near-identical letters40% matchLetters are treated as near-identical when at least 40% of their five-word sequences match.

Limits: this is a summary of what letters say, not a poll. The letters were read and coded with the help of an AI tool, following written rules that were first tested and hand-checked on a 50-letter sample. The blind check was a second AI pass using the same rules, so it tests consistent reading rather than the rules themselves. People are matched by the name on the submission, so a name spelt two ways may count twice. No submitter is named on this page; every letter is public on Council’s portal.

Who prepared this. The group of Manly residents who run savemanlybeach.com. We object to the application, so we have shown both sides on the same terms, and every figure can be checked against the letters on Council’s portal. If you think something here is wrong, email contact [at] savemanlybeach [dot] com and we will check it and correct it.